Agenda and minutes

Overview and Scrutiny Task Group - Adoption of Estates - Wednesday, 28th November 2012 6.00 pm

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Venue: Committee Room 2

Items
No. Item

18.

Apologies for absence

Minutes:

There were no apologies for absence.

19.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 109 KB

To confirm the minutes of the Overview and Scrutiny Task Group – Adoption of Estates meeting held on Wednesday 8 November 2012 (enclosed)

Minutes:

RESOLVED – That the minutes of the Overview and Scrutiny Committee meeting held on 8 November 2012 be confirmed as a correct record for signing by the Chair.

20.

Declarations of Any Interests

Members are reminded of their responsibility to declare any pecuniary interest in respect of matters contained in this agenda.

 

If you have a pecuniary interest you must withdraw from the meeting. Normally you should leave the room before the business starts to be discussed. You do, however, have the same right to speak as a member of the public and may remain in the room to enable you to exercise that right and then leave immediately. In either case you must not seek to improperly influence a decision on the matter.

Minutes:

Councillor Julia Berry – Kittiwake Estate, Heapey

21.

Discussion about the presentation by Chris Bond - Northamptonshire County Council

Please refer to the minutes of the meeting held on 8 November 2012.

Minutes:

The Group all agreed that the presentation by Chris Bond from Northamptonshire County Council was interesting and informative. Most of the issues that they faced were the same as the ones that were consistently being raised throughout this review and Members thought that some of the changes that they had implemented as a result could potentially be recommendations for this review.

 

Members considered that the key areas that needed to be addressed in this review were:

·         Provision of suitable information to buyers of property on unadopted estates.

·         The current situation of unadopted roads throughout the Borough

·         Looking at ways of reducing the bonds developers take out pre-development.

·         Building better relationships with developers.

·         The more extreme use of planning conditions on applications to encourage developers to undertake a Section 38 on the development.

 

Information was sought as to what information a potential house purchaser would receive, that was the responsibility of the Council to provide, for example, information that was received in a landcharge search on a property.

 

Officers explained that although some solicitors still requested a landcharge search on a property, many now only opt for a personal search which was a lower cost option which did not go into as much detail.

 

The delegated power that had been given to Mr Bond at his Council to relax the amount of the Bonds on an individual case was thought to be key to the expediency of estates being adopted by the Councils. Officers explained that for Chorley, this responsibility lay with Lancashire County Council. County Councillor Michael Devaney reported that the County Council were currently looking at this option by undertaking negotiations at the different stages of the development,  and that they had already relaxed the Bonds on a couple of occasions.

 

Members asked if a schedule of recommendations so far could be presented at future meetings of the group so that they could keep track of the information they had considered in the review. This would also be a good way of collating the Group’s recommendations and would help to formulate the Final Report of the review.

 

RESOLVED – That a schedule of potential recommendations so far be drafted and brought to subsequent meetings of the review that will be updated accordingly at the end of each meeting.

22.

Additional information relating to the identified case studies

22a

Open spaces information from People and Places Directorate pdf icon PDF 44 KB

The open spaces information is now enclosed for Members which was unavailable at the time each of the identified case studies were considered.

Minutes:

The Group received information relating to the open spaces provision on the developments at Gillibrand, Chorley, Fairview Farm, Adlington and Kittiwake, Heapey.

 

The information outlined in each of the reports explained a long standing history of outstanding issues at each of the sites.

 

Officers explained that although play provision was included in many of the Section 106 Agreements on the various developments. Residents often opposed the siting of these play areas and that developers were looking to install the play equipment before the houses were built in a bid to prevent them from being installed at all. On many occasions, residents complain to the Council that they were unaware that a play area was due to be installed so close to their property, however, the developers insist that this information was passed on and that designated area is always included on site plans, given out in their literature and displayed on site.

 

RESOLVED – That the information in the report be noted.

22b

Adlington Train Station - Commuted sum pdf icon PDF 51 KB

A question arose from the O&S – Estate Adoptions meeting on 17 October 2012 in the Fairview Farm Section 106 Agreement dated 12 November 1999 there was a commuted sum payment of £7,500 with the intention that the money be used for improvements to Adlington Railway Station, and the question was how it was spent.

 

In conjunction with Network Rail the commuted sum was put towards the following “Improvements to Adlington Railway Station, supply, installation and up keep of the following: 4 x Sheffield cycle stands 1 x 3DR structure 2 x community notice cases with sub frames 3 x direction of travel signs 1 x main double sided Totem 1 x double sided car park sign 3 x headers for information structure 2 x signs for cycle stands/direction” and was financed during 2007/08.

 

Minutes:

At a previous meeting of the Group it had been reported that in the Fairview Farm Section 106 Agreement dated 12 November 1999 there had been a commuted sum payment of £7,500 to the Council to be used for improvements to Adlington Railway Station.

 

Members were informed that this money had been spent on various improvement works at the station, mainly around the installation and maintenance of signage during 2007/08.

 

RESOLVED – That the information be noted.

22c

Lancashire County Council information pdf icon PDF 51 KB

Progress report as at 5 October 2012 (enclosed)

Minutes:

The Group received information form Lancashire County Council that gave the updated position on the status of adoption for each of the developments identified in the review.

 

County Councillor Michael Devaney commented that although subsequent developers carried out the work requested in a Section 38 Agreement on an estate, it was the original developer that held the Bond and overall responsibility for the Section 38 Agreement.

 

Members asked if officers of the authority had a list of designated spokespersons/contacts with developers that they could liaise with on particular issues contained within a Section 38 agreement.

 

Officers explained that often the contact with developers changed but that the main issue was maintaining an up to date list of the status of all the outstanding issues on developments across the Borough and Members agreed that this was something that needed to be addressed going forward.

 

RESOLVED

1.    That the information in the report be noted.

2.    That clarification be sought as to whether or not the original developer retains the responsibility of the Bond and Section 38 Agreement.

3.    That relations with Lancashire County Council be improved upon around maintaining accurate records on the progress of actions contained with Section 38 Agreements across the Borough.

23.

Developers interviews and public consultation arrangements

The Group will need to have a discussion about which developers to invite and what questions will be asked of them for the next meeting of the review.

 

Members are asked to bring suggested questions with them to the meeting for discussion by the Group.

 

The Group will also need to finalise the arrangements for the public consultation.

Minutes:

It was agreed to invite nominated representatives from each of the identified developments to talk about their issues and experiences of adoption to the next meeting in December

 

The Group agreed to invite the following Developers to a future meeting:

·         Arley Homes

·         Persimmon Homes

·         Wainhomes

·         Redrow

·         Taylor Wimpey

 

These developers all had significant experience of building on developments across the borough.

 

A list of suggested topic areas was circulated at the meeting from which Members could identify appropriate questions. It was intended that these would be sent out to the developers in advance of the meeting to allow them to adequately prepare and Members also thought it would be useful to send them to other developers for a written response.

 

RESOLVED

1.    That residents nominated by Ward Councillors be invited to attend the meeting on 19 December 2012 to talk about their experiences of adoption.

2.    That the agreed list of developers be invited to meeting on 14 January 2013 to give their view and opinions, with other developers being contacted to provide a written response.

3.    That Members give consideration to suitable questions to be submitted in advance of the next meeting.

24.

Future meeting dates

The remaining scheduled meetings are as follows:

 

Wednesday 19 December 2012 at 6.00pm

 

Wednesday 9 January 2013 at 6.00pm

 

 

Minutes:

It was agreed that the dates and format for the next four meetings of the Task Group would be as follows:

 

Wednesday 19 December 2012 at 6.00pm – resident consultation

Monday 14 January 2013 at 6.00pm – Interviewing developers

Wednesday 22 January at 4.00pm – Interviewing Chorley Council/Lancashire County Council/United Utilities officers

Wednesday 6 February at 6.00pm – pull recommendations together for inclusion in the Final Report.